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Are Diabetes Educators Trying To KILL US?
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Ok, got your attention 😁

As I mentioned in Henry's call to battle I spent a couple/few hours down at the medical building this morning with my wife (annual "shrink" exam for her).

My Doc spotted me sitting waiting and after a short chat she asked if I would do a survey while waiting. They were looking for suggestions etc to add to the Diabetes Education Classes that they conduct for the newly diagnosed.

It was mostly a "give a simple answer or select from a list" but the question I'm going to… read more

posted July 21, 2022
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A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member yes, that's exactly it.

I personally eat a Low Carb/High Fat diet (LCHF).

It is not the most healthy diet (estimated to reduce life expectancy by 4 years) because even though I am careful to try and keep my saturated fat intake low, when 60% of your calories come from fat it's easy to cross the line a few too many times which can lead to heart disease.

My choice was not simply picked out of the air. Thought and consultation did go into it.

Nobody in my family going back 4 generations that I know of ever had a heart attack or stroke (but we are all diabetics). So in discussions with my Diabetes Doc and my Dietitian the consensus was that I'm probably not genetically predisposed to heart issues (many are) so my system could probably tolerate more "fat", even saturated, then Joe/Jane average.

The problem with most diets that really restrict carbs, save the Mediterranean diet (which is just way to bland for me to stick with if you actually follow it's rules) leave us "lacking", sometimes severely in key vitamins, mineral and nutrients or getting too much saturated fat (although some, such as sat-fat in Dairy products is not dangerous and in fact needed or you can develop issues) - because most of vitamins, minerals, trace elements that we have evolved to need for proper function are in "stuff that contains carbs".

With the LCHF diet you need to protect against heart disease, cholesterol (I'm medicated for that), blood pressure (medicated for that as well) and stroke.

Vegan more so and Vegetarian diets while really heart healthy leave the (person) deficient in a number of vitamins and trace elements. We can make a conscious decision to not eat animals for whatever reason but we can't erase a million years of evolution where our bodies came to "need" a diet that encompasses all food groups.

So any diet we undertake needs "professional advice" to identify deficiencies that we can address with either "other foods" or supplements.

About 3 years back I sat with my dietitian for almost 3 hours and she did an in depth analysis of "what I eat" to try and identify "what's missing". Turned out it wasn't enough that I needed to supplement, but I did add a couple of other items into my (routine) to prevent a deficiency.

posted July 21, 2022 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

Well they always had me on 45 g of carbs per meal that is x3 and I was never able to lose weight at all being on 1500 calories per day. So that is why certain health care professionals were always on my back to exercise exercise exercise and I wouldn`t lose weight but I had no interest in doing so daily and rather wanted to do it when I felt like it not when they wanted me to do it. I hated it so anywaysss the last two years I decided to take matters in my own hands and decrease my calories big time along with the carbs daily and still am not exercising at all other then doing housework or when I do things outdoors but nothing to the point where im sweating big time or getting my heart rate up excessively but I will say that the regime I started has worked perfectly for me not to say that I wont start up maybe going on the treadmill more etc but I had to take matters into my own hands and do what I felt i needed to do in order to lose some weight. So because I am not exercising regularly why do I need to consume all those calories and carbs? I don`t need too that`s my point and that is what has worked for me for yearssss they had me on all those carbs and calories and I wasn`t exercising so why eat all that? The dietitians need to follow a protocol I believe just like the doctors when it comes to prescribing medications and they go by your age whether you are male or female your height and or how much you weigh in at your first visit to determine how much you should consume but regardless its always around the same amount as someone who exercises daily and who will burn off those calories and carbs where I myself will not so its no wonder why I wasn`t able to lose anything when I followed their diet regime. Now I still write in my journal as to what I am eating daily nutrition and all and calculate it all at bedtime to see where I am at and I even write when I cheat etc or when I didn`t write anything down when it comes to the nutritional values cause I didn't have that info but ate the food anyways. I won`t lie to myself but at the end of the week I will know if my cheating ways did cause me to gain or lose its all in the number and am no longer hard on myself when it does go up...since tomorrow is a new day no big deal and as long as I am still able to control my sugars which I will nip in the butt when they are elevated as soon as they happen well that's all that matters. To this day they all still feel that the reason why I lost so much weight is cause i was hardcore exercising which isn`t the truth at all but I allow them to think that cause I would rather not engage with them as to how I am doing it since they probably wouldn`t approve. My life...my choice...my diabetes....😊PS I do take different vitamins quite a few actually cause I am not always eating from all the food groups just wanted to add that as well and keep my fingers crossed that I am not doing any damage to my organs.

posted July 21, 2022
A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member....Slim Fast has several ingredients that I personally would never put in my body..Maltodextrin,Dextrose,sucrolose and artificial flavors being the main ones. Each to their own though. There's also a fair amount of carbs in it. Your lunch sounds good! Have you ever tried heavy cream in your coffee? Very low carbs. Whipping cream is the same. Easy to make yourself. My wife puts a little cinnamon and turmeric in her's. I drink my coffere black whenever I have a cup.
I also try very hard to never let my bg go over 7.8 (140.4). Over that on a consistent basis is opening the door for possible heart,organ and vascular damage. This has been proven by modern science.

posted July 23, 2022
A DiabetesTeam Member

I find everone's bio metabolism is totally differemy. We have to find out ourselves the point of balance, which is understanding our metabolism and tweaking it. Knowledge helps, that is limited!πŸ™‚

posted July 22, 2022
A DiabetesTeam Member

113 (6.2)... Fantastic!! Keep up the good work.πŸ˜ƒ

posted July 24, 2022

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