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I Was Diagnosed 3 Years Ago With Diabetes Type 2 At 59.
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I started drinking sugar-free drinks and eating more fruits 2 nartjies at night. I also eat 3 small packets of crisps with 0% sugar. I must be doing something wrong. I don't dink enough water and do not exercise although I will now walk 3 times per week with my dogs. Is the stress also increasing my sugar levels? Looking forward to your reply as it is really upsetting me. My sugar levels are now rarely below 10. Thank you.

posted August 26, 2023
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A DiabetesTeam Member

1 nartjie at 12 net carbs might be alright. But the 3 bags of crisps at 21 net carbs each, for 63 carbs should be avoided @A DiabetesTeam Member.

It sounds like your doctors are giving you the same advice my parents were given 40 years ago. They both passed 30 years ago from diabetes complications and comorbidities. Their blood glucose could only be tested with a urine sample then. Treatment of diabetes has come a long way since then.

We now know that white carbs are the worse because they convert to glucose about as quickly as sugars.

100-130 net carbs spread equitable throughout 3-5 meals and 1-2 snacks daily is about the maximum that a newly diagnosed diabetic should have for the best outcomes.
Some can only tolerate 80 net carbs.
Some only 50 net carbs.
Some only 30.

I eat to my blood glucose meter, my blood glucose numbers spreadsheet, and my food journal. It took me some time, but by experimentation I have fount how much of each food I can handle. I test before eating and at 2 hours after beginning eating.

I keep my numbers in TITR, time in tight range, 4.0(72) to 7.8(140). These are the guidelines for preventing further cumulative vascular damage. The vascular damage is what causes diabetes complications and comorbidities.

So because of my right eating lifestyle, I kow what foods I can eat somewhat freely.
I know what foods I must limit,
And I know what foods I must almost totally avoid.

I know how each food affects my numbers.
I can maintain good numbers by what I put in my mouth.
It does take self control, but after seeing what happened to both my parents within 10 years of being diagnosed with diabetes, I know I can do what's necessary.

Try limiting your net carbs to 1 seving per meal. 1 serving is 15 net carbs. 15 net carbs is:
1/3 cup of potatoes,
1/3 cup of pasta,
1/3 cup of rice.
Less than 1/3 cup of cake,
1 slice of bread.

You will get additional carbs from vegetables or whole fruit.
A portion size of apples or pears is 1 half.
Corn should be treated the same as pasta, rice, or potatoes.
Beans have fiber that actually is digested, so you can have a bit more.

So in short, cut your carbs.

Walk 10-15 minutes immediately after eating each meal. This will slow digestion and lower the glucose spike.

Good luck.
And never give up, never surrender, never ever.
You got this.
Have a wonderful day.

posted August 26, 2023
A DiabetesTeam Member

There are sugar free chocolates and sugar free coke.
Yes my health teams administrators are located in California.

100-130 net carbs spread equitable throughout 3-5 meals and 1-2 snacks. Snacks should have half or less carbs than meals. Baby steps.

Carbs include sugars and carbs. A gram of sugar is equal to a gram of carbs.
Sugars are empty carbs and provide no health benefits. But carbs from vegetables have additional nutrients. Baby steps.

A few Blueberries, Raspberries, Blackberries, avocados are good choices.
6 blueberries is 1 net carb.
3 raspberries is 1 net carb.
2 blackberries is 1 net carb.
1 avocado is 2 net carbs.
Baby steps.

Meat and fat have no carbs. So heavy whipping cream has no carbs. Although milk has 1 carb per ounce, whether whole or skim or lactose free. Lactose free still has lactose, but it also contains an enzyme to process it. Baby steps.

My meals look like stir-fry, eggs, salads, soups, or some combination of the above. Baby steps.

I had a chicken marsala at a restaurant, no rice, no pasta, but over a bed of spinach. Different, but still amazing. Baby steps.

I also put stir-fry over a bed of spinach, no rice. Also different, but still amazing. Soups, no potatoes, pasta, rice, bread, but also amazing. Baby steps.

I am limited to 1 to 1.5 tablespoons of carbs per meal. That seems to be just a tease to me, so I usually avoid them and get my carbs from vegetables. Baby steps.

And never give up, never surrender, never ever.
You got this.
Have a wonderful day.

We ate out at Thai restaurant.
I had no rice, but the food is amazing.

One of our good friends, occasionally gets a fasting blood glucose number around 4.3(78) and that is his clue to go to Tim Horton for his chocolate donut.

posted August 27, 2023 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

Thank you, I have changes to make. I usually eat nothing during the day and the main family meal is at night, but I am not a big eater. How much sugar and how many carbs can I have per day to split? If I stay within my limit, can I have a little Coke sometimes and chocolate? I also have bilateral polyneuropathy... What fruits do you recommend? Is this group based in the States? Thank you.

posted August 27, 2023
A DiabetesTeam Member

Okay I now know what type of fruit you are eating. In general all citrus fruit should be avoided or very limited! Try just having one and do it the morning. Thus way your body has a chance to process it and not store the sugar. I now follow the old proverb of eating like a king in the morning, a prince in the afternoon and a pauper at night.
See if this helps!

posted August 26, 2023
A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member All the above is sound advice.

Crisps (of the potato/corn variety) are usually the first thing to go for diabetics. When you eat the 3 bags of crisps at once you are getting too many carbs at once. Your carbs need to be equally spread out throughout the day, in order to avoid spiking your blood glucose-from an overdose of carbs. Even if you ate one bag of crisps at three different times of the day it would still be too many carbs. Most foods have carbs in them-even fruit and vegs. So you have to add up the carbs from everything you eat, in order to know how much you are eating in one days' time.

There is a free app called Fatsecret which shows the nutrients in most foods-carbs, sugars, sodium, calories, etc....to help you keep track each day.

Not sure about sugar-free drinks but believe that some artificial sweeteners are bad for diabetics though, so you have to google about that. I do know that water is best, and recently read that flavored sparkling water (with nothing artificial added) is next best. Good luck with your research-you can get a lot of info from reading the posts and articles here.

posted August 26, 2023 (edited)

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